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Old 06-17-2006, 03:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Quick question, in this setup, you only used peat? Why did you not use Laterite?
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Old 06-18-2006, 06:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Not so quick answer:

1 - It is expensive, i.e. one pound of Laterite is about the same price as 50lbs of Soilmaster or Turface, or one package Flourite, all of which contain iron.

2 - Take a look at this link: http://home.infinet.net/teban/jamie.htm
You'll notice that both Flourite and Turface (Soilmaster is a similar product as Turface) have a decent iron content when compared to Substrate Gold (laterite). First Layer Pure Laterite does have considerably more iron than Flourite or Turface but how much is enough?

3 - The Soilmaster may not be "heavy" enough to "cap" the laterite. I didn't want to take the chance of the Soilmaster not being an adequate "cap" for the Laterite.

4 - I already dose the water column with a micro fert that contains iron so why add more?

By dosing the water column I don't feel there is a need for the addition of any macros or micros to the substrate. I don't use any substrate fertilizers in my tanks and don't see the need. I feel that plants will grow just a well by fertilizing the water column. For those who are neither willing nor able to dose the water column consistently, I would recommend the addition of laterite or better yet, Eco Complete.

I don't feel any of the "commercial" substrates curently available are adequate in a high light ( more than 2 or 2.5wpg) tank. The plants seem to grow too fast to rely on their roots to provide nourishment. You can easily test this yourself by watching the growth of a tank with high light and Eco Complete substrate by skipping a few fertilizer additions to the water column. After skipping 2-3 doses, (maybe more in a lower light tank) the plants will begin to look worse (smaller leaves and or stunting) and algae will begin to grow.

By all means feel free to give laterite a try. Just make sure the "cap" you use is heavy enough to not allow the laterite to seep up through the substrate. It can be a real mess if the laterite leaches into the water column. That heavy orange tint (like green water only orange) will take all of the enjoyment out of watching your tank and it can't be filtered out with a diatom filter like gren water can, at least until all the laterite has leached into the water column
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Old 06-18-2006, 05:30 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply. I plan on setting up my first tank using soilmaster select charcoal mainly due to your set up and another website I found that compared the growth of ADA amazonia and soilmaster. Here's the link ...

The link's obviously not the most scientific thing, but it's interesting and the look of the soilmaster is great.

Thanks for the reply though, it's always interesting to read why other people use or don't use certain things.
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Old 06-19-2006, 08:09 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Jacks Aquarium here by the Dayton Mall carries the GE 9325 bulbs. May be a little late on the input for you though (Hey, when am I not late?)
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Great post, thanks for the step by step it really helps a newbie out !
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Great post, thanks for the step by step it really helps a newbie out !
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:24 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Hi, I am new to this Aquatic plants stuff and really need a lot of advice on how to setup, can you please repost those pictures you have in your post? the links seems broken. thanks.
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Pocpocpocky, welcome to APC! The original post in this thread is now 9 year old, so I doubt that you will get a response. If you have any specific questions, try posting in the New to Planted Aquariums forum.
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