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Old 05-16-2006, 09:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks on 405 Tropical. If I go up there next weekend I might get a few. My tanks are 10g that I'd be putting these in, so a little can go a long way. May go in my 20g if I can get the terrestrial plants out of it

Anyway...they are invasive and the only places of major appearance seems to be Florida and Hawaii according to the gov'mint web site.

AGA from AF? Might be better to go with ADG since there shouldn't be any sales tax
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Depending how often you change your tank water, 1 whole leaf is sufficent for the 10 gallon tank. Some people boil their leaves and add it to a large water bucket but when it was unsuccessful for me. What I would do is get a large container(20 gallons?) and fill it with water. Add in 4 leaves and let it sit and leech off the tannins. As you do water changes, add in some water from the large container. This way, you would have a larger supply of Indian Almond leaf extract at your disposal rather than adding a new leaf at every water change. The leaves that are used up can be given to the shrimps (or so I've heard). By the way Mike, the next time you go to 405 can you check on their shrimps and see what variety they have? Last time I was there they had lots of amano and bamboo but no cherrys or anything. I'm forbidden to go to fish stores which sucks big time since I live about 1.3 miles from Tong's, 10 minute drive from 405, 2 minute drive from a new Petsmart, and 2 miles from Petco
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The key word is 'if'. I'm not local...
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OK...talked to the folks with the Montmorillonite rocks. We've got to hurry...they only have a few hundred pounds left

He was actually quite friendly and interested in what they would be used for. He even offered up any number of koi and pond related magazines he has collected. A number include plant info.

He's got a home office in addition to an official office and is flexible on times to pick up. So if anyone is in the 405/10 area (Culver City) that is willing to pick up, we can probably minimize shipping. Joe?

Anyway, it looks to be about $8 per pound for 7 pounds, $7.50 per for 12lbs, $7 per for 25lbs, and $6.50 per for 50lbs.

Anyone?
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I'll volunteer to pick up the Montmorillonite since I'm right by the 405/10. As long as where only talking about 100lbs. Couple hundred might be hard on my Civic and my back.

How would you use the rock? Remember somewhere that Japanese CRS breeders use it to improve color of the shrimp. Is this the case and also how much is needed?

I would be down to try say a pound or two.
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Basically what I saw was in a tank of any size had a small bowl or saucer. Piled in the dish was maybe a handful of rocks.

The dish was also used as a spot to put live bloodworms in the tank for the shrimp to eat (and the worms would be unable to leave the dish making it easy to control them for the shrimp).

I don't know how much interest there is. We may be talking 12lbs or less.
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