I don't expect many replies, but is there anyone out there that knows what exactly is in ADA ECA. All I can tell so far is that it has iron of some form in it.
that is the exact point of this thread...I am trying to find out what is in ECARaul-7 said:I didn't mean to say Amano's products are a hoax. I'm just saying people tend to buy products that famous people use, even without knowing if it's better than the local fertilizers available readily...
Come on, Tom. You being a student of science will appreciate the fact that aquatic botany (especially that defined by the confined space of our aquariums) is far from being an exact science. There are a number of things that science has yet to fully understand or explain. Ongoing research is necessary and will lead to new and novel ideas and methods.plantbrain said:Art, all that research etc sounds great.
But if there was a real concerted effort, they would have figured this stuff out many years ago.
Tom, we all thought very differently back then. I call it the evolution of a hobby for the better. There are plants that do better with hard water, but there are those that do not. I can name various Crypts that prefer one side or the other.plantbrain said:Not one of them suggested more CO2 than 15ppm, PO4, NH4 as the caustive agent for algal blooms, hard water is fine for Aquatic plants and where some of the best growth occurs ....on and on ad nauseum...........
Everyone of them said something quite different prior.
Now Tom [-X Lets clarify some things here. I don't believe ADA (or other reputable company) ever said ONLY my products work. No one claimed to have a magic ingredient. Certainly there is good marketing behind Seachem, Tropica, Dupla, ADA, etc. but that's good business.plantbrain said:It sounds good to a consumer and sounds more like a marketing ploy, not real research.
I ain't no genius, I was a poor student, just one person and few hobbyist for feedback.
Sure, anyone can try and make a routine work for them with strict guidelines using ONLY their products, most of which get even more and more extensive as time wears on.
But that's business protection/sales, not research.
It's similar to making it a "secret ingredient" that you have to pay extra for.
I won't buy into something until I understand it. I understand what they are doing with their fertilizer line, additive lines and substrate lines. I also understand why their products are made the way they are. If there is something I don't understand, I will ask for some substantiation before I purchase the product. If I don't get it, I won't buy it.I could refomulate all sorts of products and say it enhances this or that.
I could add a little Fluvic acid in my trace and make a big hodo over it.
I could make a plant "NO3/NH4 uptake accelerator" and just have it be KH2PO4 and water.
I wanna see something that shows that heating cables work.
Neither Claus nor myself have found any support for many of these claims.
You wanna trust them, put faith in their team of "researchers", be my guest.
But I will be critical of this so called "research".
Doesn't mean I dislike the company or Amano, I like him a great deal.
No, this is not snake oil, but it's not the cat's meow either.
It's just some traces with some Humic acid etc in it.
Enjoy the diversity available to us now, Tom. I, for one, would be tremendously bored if all I had were NO flourescents, yeast, and a bunch of bags of dry chemicals. For a long time, that's all we had!plantbrain said:These product lines keep growing etc, but there are only a few simple things plants need, light, CO2, nutrients.
More stuff is not better.