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I am planning on the first active article to be posted on the Barr Report coming up on Jan 2nd. Folks can register and sign up now. I am still adding to the site and will have a large amount of references for folks wanting more information on aquatic plants, algae and related information.

Yes, I'm finally having to charge something to pay for the site etc, I weighed this with selling a variety of snake oils, secret substrates but I figure I've saved many folks potentially 100$ or more on test kits, RO, cables, miracle cures, fertilizers over the years for free.... so 12.95$ ain't bad for a years worth of organized information.

I'm saving a few trees, reducing cost for everyone by sending it out on line also, not to mention there are no mailing or delivery problems and folks in Europe, Asia, Africa, SA, AU and NA all get the articles in a timely fashion and can save it or print it out. There will also be some user feedback on the articles.
The site will build and have more things as time allows. Research presented and sreferences will be very current/up to date.

I, of course, will have an entire article devoted to each nutrient involving all the gory details that folks seem to relish. There will be practical matters discussed and selected past post that will be edited making a search much easier.

I will have some very good DIY projects listed and photographed/drawn. There is also a revised updated version of the Estimative Index. Registered users will essentially have a role and a preview in the formation of a book long before it hits the shelf. The site also have a translation engine for several languages. I will try to get other languages up for that as well. The site will have a blog page for references I think are thought provoking and relevant to aquatic plants and algae along with my "missives". The site will deal with CO2, marine, pond, natural and non CO2 systems.

http://www.BarrReport.com

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Tom Barr
 

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I have tried to register, got the confirmation e-mail and folowed the link, this was what i got: "Page not found".
 

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Tom I just tried to sign up and you asking for my paypal password. The paypal email “yes” but I am not given my passwords out. I have never been asked that before when doing a paypal transaction. After giving my email address I normally would get an email invoice requesting my approval.
 

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It's working for folks from everything I can tell.
Yes, it's a year's subscription for that price, not per month.

I figure folks pay a lot more than that for really non essential items related to the hobby and no one else writes about the issues that I do.

There are other ways to sign up without paypla, electronic checking etc.
Greg Watson has the same system for his site.

There are a few bugs we are working on, but the site should be up and running.

Let me know if you have any issues later. You can email the web master to get more info if that is still not working for you.

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I think that is a great price for what you get! Im deffinately going to sign up...right after xmas that is ;-)
 

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I have tried to register, got the confirmation e-mail and folowed the link, this was what i got: "Page not found".
I think you clicked on the link that suggests you change your password .... for some reason <grin> ... it thinks you need to login first before you should be allowed to change your password ...

Thanks for pointing that out to me ... I'll work on getting the text in the confirmation email corrected ... it requires you to login first, then it suggests you change your password (the current confirmation email certainly doesn't explain it that way) ...

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Greg
 

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Tom I just tried to sign up and you asking for my paypal password. The paypal email "yes" but I am not given my passwords out. I have never been asked that before when doing a paypal transaction. After giving my email address I normally would get an email invoice requesting my approval.
The BarrReport.com website uses an automated PayPal payment processing system which takes you to a PayPal payment page on the PayPal website. So when you enter your PayPal email address you are actually on the PayPal website - and when PayPal asks you for your password, you are still on the PayPal website ...

When you write "I normally would get an email invoice requesting my approval" ... if you receive something like this ... it means that the seller has MANUALLY sent you a request for payment ... which is quite a bit different than an automated system where you are taken to PayPal and you are telling PayPal to send a payment ...

However, Tom has asked me to setup an alternative payment system, so you can now place international credit card orders here: http://www.pmddstore.com/proddetail.asp?prod=BarrReport

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Thanks Greg for clearing that up. I just finished subscribing and yes I overlooked that it switched to paypals web page.
 

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Call me a cynic, but why do I want to subscribe. What does my $12.95 get me that I can't already get on the many forums and mail lists?
 

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Call me a cynic, but why do I want to subscribe. What does my $12.95 get me that I can't already get on the many forums and mail lists?
I guess this:

"Subscribers also get private exclusive access to the Barr Blog, Tom Barr's personal web log containing rants and ravings about a variety of aquatic topics."

or just subscribe to APD! :wink:
 

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Call me a cynic, but why do I want to subscribe. What does my $12.95 get me that I can't already get on the many forums and mail lists?
Many have already gotten plenty from my past post for what? The last decade? I am not going to be very involved and forth coming with the forums in the future, that time has passed.

The artilces I have are in depth. They take real work. Folks spend more than 12$ on all sorts of things, I think over the years I've saved many folks a lot more than 12 misely bucks.

If you honestly believe you will not learn something from these upcoming articles, you are not forced to join this:) Maybe you are more curious though.

And it's not just my thing, it's Greg and my's project.
We both have done a lot for the hobby over the years and given freely without any expectation of money. The amount is mighty small.

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Tom Barr
 

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Call me a cynic, but why do I want to subscribe. What does my $12.95 get me that I can't already get on the many forums and mail lists?
I guess this:

"Subscribers also get private exclusive access to the Barr Blog, Tom Barr's personal web log containing rants and ravings about a variety of aquatic topics."

or just subscribe to APD! :wink:
Severral folks have on more than one occassion said that I am about 50%+ of the APD.
So that will no longer be my stomping grounds, I'll post is some things, not like before. I have written more articles and put some work with references and new synthesis for a foundation for a supportive arguement of the conclusions. I will not have th tiem to post there nor have the need, I'll have my own little plant puppy. Folks got issues/questions, they can come there.

That is a much more useful thing than the diatribes I post and will help the hobby as whole which is far more the goal than making 12$ off anyone. That pays for the web stuff and maybe popcorn. This has never been about making money for me, it's about producing a better system of information and ultimately better plant growth/designs and approaches.

Folks also know I have the experience and education to back up what I'm saying here and in the content of the articles.

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Tom Barr
 

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edit- didn't read page 2 of the thread before posting, but I'll leave it up anyway...

I should think it would be worth something to have one comprehensive source for the Barr wisdom. Tom posts the same thing over & over, but you might miss a detail here, a stressed point there, and then there's that rabid murdering of the language that makes deciphering a challenge (no offense, I hope, Tom).

Taking the time to produce a body of articles that both address their subject in more detail (and are adequately proofread), as opposed to the thousands of posts scattered all around the net, IMHO, has great value. And is worth paying a few bucks for. I've been hoping this would happen since I started reading Tom, and I really believe it's a far more efficient way for him to get the word out...
 

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Tom, You need an editor. Now that you're on the professional fee-charging track, an editor can help you to maximize your earnings by polishing your presentations.

Andrew Cribb
 
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