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Enjoying the discussion! I just wanted to pop in with a quick update. I bought some lights and the stuff to run them:
White LED tape (JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights):
Red LED tape (same thing, but red):
Gonna try this nifty little inline PWM dimmer, it's for brushed motors, but I don't see any reason it won't work on LEDs (PEMENOL Motor Speed Controller PWM DC 5V 12V 24V 150W Adjustable Speed Regulator with Stepless Variable Rotary Switch PWM Signal Generator Driver Module):
All powered by this (EPBOWPT AC Switching Power Adapter, AC 100-240V to DC 24V 5A 120W Switching Power Supply Transformers for LED Strip Lights/Router/Security Camera/with 2.1mm x 5.5mm DC Connector):
Total for all that (and ten 5.5mm power connector sets) was about $60. Sure, I can buy two basic LED aquarium light units for $5 more, BUT where's the fun in THAT? LOL
There are fancier/better/cheaper/more efficient items available, but these seemed to be good matches for my budget and needs (as I currently understand them) as well as they had specs I could determine.
Aside from the little "odds and ends" like hookup wire, solder, glue, screws, etc. (most of which I already have) the two main remaining pieces of the lighting puzzle are the "body" of the light (details TBD) and the mount (1/2" or 3/4" PVC frame, painted black, mounted to the stand... already know how this is gonna work.)
I'm planning on two units making up the light, one at the front and one at the back, which is required to avoid nasty shadows from the big black hinge strip running down the middle of the glass lid. Each half will have 2 runs of white and one red, about 30 inches long, for a grand total of 12 feet/4 meters of white and 6 feet/2 meters of red. I'll likely make each half tiltable, to keep the light within the confines of the tank. We'll see how that goes.
Aluminum extrusions have gotten so danged expensive! I'm trying to figure out something inexpensive to act as a heatsink/light mount, yet be visually acceptable... or which can be mounted within something that is. I have a few ideas, will report back when I actually build something. Also need to source an inexpensive clear cover for the lights, as plexiglass is really pricey now too.
Anyway, hope to have more soon. Good to finally be doing something other than overanalyzing and fretting. Worst case, I'll learn what doesn't work... that worked for Thomas Edison, so....
White LED tape (JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights):
Amazon.com: JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights : Home & Kitchen
Amazon.com: JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights : Home & Kitchen
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Red LED tape (same thing, but red):
Amazon.com: JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights : Home & Kitchen
Amazon.com: JOYLIT 24V LED Strip Lights White 6000-6500K, 16.4ft/5M Flexible 300 Units SMD5050 LEDs, No-Waterproof High Bright LED Tape Lights : Home & Kitchen
smile.amazon.com
Gonna try this nifty little inline PWM dimmer, it's for brushed motors, but I don't see any reason it won't work on LEDs (PEMENOL Motor Speed Controller PWM DC 5V 12V 24V 150W Adjustable Speed Regulator with Stepless Variable Rotary Switch PWM Signal Generator Driver Module):
PEMENOL Motor Speed Controller PWM DC 5V 12V 24V 150W Adjustable Speed Regulator with Stepless Variable Rotary Switch PWM Signal Generator Driver Module - - Amazon.com
PEMENOL Motor Speed Controller PWM DC 5V 12V 24V 150W Adjustable Speed Regulator with Stepless Variable Rotary Switch PWM Signal Generator Driver Module - - Amazon.com
smile.amazon.com
All powered by this (EPBOWPT AC Switching Power Adapter, AC 100-240V to DC 24V 5A 120W Switching Power Supply Transformers for LED Strip Lights/Router/Security Camera/with 2.1mm x 5.5mm DC Connector):
Amazon.com: SUPERNIGHT AC 100-240V to DC 24V 5A 120W Power Supply Switching Transformers for LED Strip Lights/Router/Security Camera/with 2.1mm x 5.5mm DC Connector : Electronics
Amazon.com: SUPERNIGHT AC 100-240V to DC 24V 5A 120W Power Supply Switching Transformers for LED Strip Lights/Router/Security Camera/with 2.1mm x 5.5mm DC Connector : Electronics
smile.amazon.com
Total for all that (and ten 5.5mm power connector sets) was about $60. Sure, I can buy two basic LED aquarium light units for $5 more, BUT where's the fun in THAT? LOL
There are fancier/better/cheaper/more efficient items available, but these seemed to be good matches for my budget and needs (as I currently understand them) as well as they had specs I could determine.
Aside from the little "odds and ends" like hookup wire, solder, glue, screws, etc. (most of which I already have) the two main remaining pieces of the lighting puzzle are the "body" of the light (details TBD) and the mount (1/2" or 3/4" PVC frame, painted black, mounted to the stand... already know how this is gonna work.)
I'm planning on two units making up the light, one at the front and one at the back, which is required to avoid nasty shadows from the big black hinge strip running down the middle of the glass lid. Each half will have 2 runs of white and one red, about 30 inches long, for a grand total of 12 feet/4 meters of white and 6 feet/2 meters of red. I'll likely make each half tiltable, to keep the light within the confines of the tank. We'll see how that goes.
Aluminum extrusions have gotten so danged expensive! I'm trying to figure out something inexpensive to act as a heatsink/light mount, yet be visually acceptable... or which can be mounted within something that is. I have a few ideas, will report back when I actually build something. Also need to source an inexpensive clear cover for the lights, as plexiglass is really pricey now too.
Anyway, hope to have more soon. Good to finally be doing something other than overanalyzing and fretting. Worst case, I'll learn what doesn't work... that worked for Thomas Edison, so....
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Your led doesn’t mention how much lumens output. I’d worry it’s too dim for the aquarium. The led I linked should work even though more expensive. You can save any extra led for future projects.
you can get the aluminum channels at the hardware store pretty cheap.
you can get the aluminum channels at the hardware store pretty cheap.
I have built loads of LED fixtures for tanks ranging from 10 gallon on up to 120 gallons. With LED lights for a planted tank the first thing to scrap is any measuring of lumens. the reason is you can build a LED fixture for your 40 gallon with 20,000 lumens and it is inadequate or with 400 lumens and it is over kill. The point being you need the right wavelengths for the plants rather the amount of visual light. I used to build my fixtures with a combination of warm white (3,500K) and daylight (6,500K) leds to get a balance. But I found to get enough light you had an extremely bright system.
My new approach is firstlook at the balanceo f light for the major photosynthesis frequencies which is basically red and blue LEDS. For a 40 breeder tank I d go with about 8 watts of "royal blue" leds and 6 watts of "red" LED's. This would produce the major photosynthesis the plants need. However your tank will look purple and many minor areas photosynthesis will be low on light. It only takes a small amount of neutral white (5,000K) leds to fill that gap. for photosynthesis. But to wash out the purple hue there is lot of personal preference involved so to be pleasing to your eyes you need something from the minimum of about 6 watts to up to an 24 watts of white LED's to create a pleasing combination to your eyes.
the end fixture would be someplace between 20 watts and 38 watts of LED's. I prefer using the Cree leds that can handle up to 5 watts each but running them at a around 2 watts each for more efficiency (light per watt uf power used),
My new approach is firstlook at the balanceo f light for the major photosynthesis frequencies which is basically red and blue LEDS. For a 40 breeder tank I d go with about 8 watts of "royal blue" leds and 6 watts of "red" LED's. This would produce the major photosynthesis the plants need. However your tank will look purple and many minor areas photosynthesis will be low on light. It only takes a small amount of neutral white (5,000K) leds to fill that gap. for photosynthesis. But to wash out the purple hue there is lot of personal preference involved so to be pleasing to your eyes you need something from the minimum of about 6 watts to up to an 24 watts of white LED's to create a pleasing combination to your eyes.
the end fixture would be someplace between 20 watts and 38 watts of LED's. I prefer using the Cree leds that can handle up to 5 watts each but running them at a around 2 watts each for more efficiency (light per watt uf power used),
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I'm sure that lighting dramatically affects the sleep cycle of a plant. I have a pretty big garden, and there are lights all around the perimeter. One day I decided to change the color of the lights. Surprisingly I noticed that changing the color of one flag light had an effect on my plants. Even for the better, because before I had white bulbs, and now I replaced all the bulbs with yellow. It seems to me that these light bulb remind the plants of the color of the sun, and therefore they are better off. Maybe there are experts here who can explain this scientifically? I would be interested to know.
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I'm a big fan of "warm" lighting over the pure white bulbs. I just think it stands to reason that it contains more of the color spectrum. Everything I've read on the subject suggests that plants need some red mixed in with the other hues. So, yeah. What you call "yellow", I'm calling golden which in my paint box is yellow with a touch of red.
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I think that buying 5 meters of led tape and a 12vdc led power supply for a reasonable price is pretty tough nowadays.
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This thread is very interesting, in my beginning years in the hobby I hated the lights with a passion. I mean 40W neon lights and still no adequate plant growth?
As soon as led got more mainstream I strapped some over my tanks (Ikea ledberg). In the beginning only with fake plants but soon tried out low light plants.
With led becomming readily available I mostly use 1 blue and cold white led aquarium lamp and full spectrum (golden as someone put here) plant leds. Thats easy and cheap and looks pleasing to the eye.
If you toss some blurple plant leds in the mix the plants grow very fast but I found they grow a bit to fast... so I mostly leave them out now.
Over my 112l tank (80cm length 40cm hight) I have 3 plant led strips a 40cm and 1 blue/white strip a 70cm.
Together with some sunlight the plants are happy.
For my big one 120x50-60x60 bowfront I will use a big blue white light (120 long 3 rows of led) and 12 x 30cm golden led strips.
As soon as led got more mainstream I strapped some over my tanks (Ikea ledberg). In the beginning only with fake plants but soon tried out low light plants.
With led becomming readily available I mostly use 1 blue and cold white led aquarium lamp and full spectrum (golden as someone put here) plant leds. Thats easy and cheap and looks pleasing to the eye.
If you toss some blurple plant leds in the mix the plants grow very fast but I found they grow a bit to fast... so I mostly leave them out now.
Over my 112l tank (80cm length 40cm hight) I have 3 plant led strips a 40cm and 1 blue/white strip a 70cm.
Together with some sunlight the plants are happy.
For my big one 120x50-60x60 bowfront I will use a big blue white light (120 long 3 rows of led) and 12 x 30cm golden led strips.
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Difference between only golden plant leds and only blue and white aquarium led in duckweed.
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I tried to get one a couple of months ago, and I was stunned by the prices. I mean, they are twice as much as I used to get them two years ago. I understand that everything is getting more expensive nowadays, but like that? By the way, guys, what do you think about these strips Best RGB Smart Strip Lights | Smart LED Strip | LED Strip Lights? Would they work for a similar breeder?
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It doesn't look bright enough for plants. You want lots of LEDs close together.
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