[DutchMuch]

Well I don't think I have ever posted my emersed setup on here.
And if I'm going to be an active member, I basically need to give you all an entire tour of my property I live on right?
well to bad your not going to get it. *loads shotgun*

Instead however ill give you a tour of my Greenhouse, of which consists of my Absolutely Stunning and Beautiful, Never Ugly, Astonishing, Amazing, Great looking, Phenomenal, Astronomical, Economical, Emersed setup.
Sorry for the bragging. Cant help it. :^o :der: :rain:

lol.

Ok here are the pics, I will label certain plants as I go.

Get your popcorn ready!

p.s. my good camera broke just recently, so this is a less-better camera (English...)

Above pic, is of Rotala Indica 'true', just planted it the other day. Tried to grow stellata type 2 emersed as well in this bin, but I'm pretty sure it can only be grown submersed...

This is a new trimming of S. Repens in the same bin.

This is Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides

Next bin!

Well darn... brain farting right now... OH, hygrophilia corymbosa compacta.

Rotala 'Gia Lai'

I want to say.. this is Crypt. Lucens...

Next Bin.

Bocopa Carolinana growing in a flooded forest fringe of Bacopa Monierii

Ludwigia Arcuata carpet

One of my three pearlweed carpets

Bin of Althernanthera reneckii (fablau is properly ID-ing the variety for me)

Bin consisting of:
Brazilian pennywort
marsilea hirsuta
Ludwigia rubin
Hydro. Sib.
And some fragments of Pearlweed.

My Marsh looking bin of Marsilea Hirsuta and Ludwigia Repens

New Ludwigia arcuata and Bacopa Carolianana experiment I'm doing, full sun.

 

[DutchMuch]

Upload better pics in a bit here.

 

[DutchMuch]

You can also see those on here: https://www.facebook.com/Dutch-Aquaria-1838682663109685/

 

[buceborneo]

what media do you use to grow emersed?

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[DutchMuch]

Its a personal mix, wink wink, of MGOPS (not saying ratios), peat moss, vigro garden soil, MGMCO, and sand if needed.

 

[DutchMuch]

Well its official!
growing dwarf baby tears EMERSED!
and Limno aromatic MINI
Stellatus type 2!!!
and possibly narrow leaf stellatus, idk if ill plant that or not.

All of the things I grow emersed I will sell, trimmings of. Or plants, depends on growth rates.

 

[DutchMuch]

 

[DutchMuch]

Well its winter, getting down in the 20's and 30's. Bit of the 50's and 60's now and then.
So when it gets cold, there is No additional heat in the greenhouse. And by that I mean a heater, black bucket with insulation in it, nothing. So when its 30's outside, its 30's inside the greenhouse.
So how do all the plants not die? well its simple, make a greenhouse, inside the greenhouse...!

Sounds easy right? yea but it isn't free. For me it was but for others it most likely wont be.
You can see in the pics what I'm talking about but what I do to make a greenhouse tub inside the greenhouse, is put glass over all my tubs Seal it Tight but leave 1 gap for air to get out and Co2 to get in. Optional to put the tubs top over the glass but I did anyway.
So here are the pics of all the plants in approximately 44 degree weather, and plz note it has been cold for a long couple months now. None of the plants have Major die off. They simply don't grow and go dormant, that is the ones outside without covers, the ones with covers do as they would in summer, grow 24/7!

Thinking about using seed starter blocks for some hydrocotyle japan or maybe crypts, maybe rotala... not sure yet.
Sorry for the bad pics on the seed starter blocks, weird focus thing happened I wasn't aware of.

 

[Yo-han]

Wow, I'm so jealous! Looks good! Can't set up something like this in the Netherlands because the winters are way too cold and living space is much smaller here so inside isn't an option either.

 

[DutchMuch]

Wow, I'm so jealous! Looks good! Can't set up something like this in the Netherlands because the winters are way too cold and living space is much smaller here so inside isn't an option either.

Sorry you cant set one up, I'm sure one day something will come up, but thanks for the kind comment!

 

[eclecticjanie]

Aha! So that's your secret!
I'm impressed!

Well done, Nate, Well done.
Janie

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[DutchMuch]

Thanks Janie!!!

 

[DutchMuch]

Update time!
its winter here and we have 60 degree days and 10-20 degree nights! So this kind of proves how hardy everyone's plants are emersed. This includes stellatus.

I got my hydrocotyle sib. in that one big long bucket, and its INVADING all my bacopa sp.!!! So now I need to invest in another bucket setup. I will say hydrocotyle is so invasive...

Anyway here are the pictures! hope you all enjoy them, one of these days I'm gonna invest in that macro lense, but I need to know what kind... I'm not to fancy into cameras yet, what is the best macro lense out there that is under 400$? anyone know?
Thanks in advance.

Pics!:

Dwarf baby tears, I just cannot figure this plant out...! it hasn't grown to much, high humidity, nice and warm, PLENTY of nutrients... idk! maybe its just slow.

 

[DutchMuch]

Also took some crypt plantlets and propagated crypt tropica.

My other crypt, forgot the type, is a pretty slow grower to...!

I got a 10g aquarium at Petco a while back and I was going to actually scape it, still working on that!

And here is my pond, planted in the bog area some marsilea hirsuta and ludwigia types. So far really good growth. Also planted some bacopa, basically everything. Grew really good but hopefully it makes it over winter.

What type of cichlids can we keep in a 3600 gallon pond? it might be bigger than that btw. I know in norfork lake around here (North central, AR) we have Grand Rio Cichlids that were introduced, but they are very sparse. Summer is boiling hot, like 100 degrees and winter is 10-20's but in the pond since its really deep I'm guessing its around 40 degrees at the bottom during mid day winter.

So it would have to be a hardy fish... any recommendations? we are getting some beautiful sunfish for sure in there!

 

[NorCalnomad]

Man what a great setup, I’m in the process of encouraging my wife to let me build a green house. Do you add any potting clay to your mix for additional iron? I’m getting ready to setup an emersion setup under the 125g I’m in the process of assembling to propagate plants and I see some use a soil mix while others use clay balls.


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[DutchMuch]

Man what a great setup, I'm in the process of encouraging my wife to let me build a green house. Do you add any potting clay to your mix for additional iron? I'm getting ready to setup an emersion setup under the 125g I'm in the process of assembling to propagate plants and I see some use a soil mix while others use clay balls.

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I recommend you check my other thread out here http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/...e/136297-emersed-culture-beginner-basics.html

Yea a greenhouse Really pays off for whatever your growing, anything grows! I have other food and vege's in there that compared to the 5 acre garden we have, (back to eden method) the stuff in the greenhouse is 2x as big (organically grown, so with ferts imagine it as 4x as big!)

But yea greenhouse is a huge plus, but here is the thing, don't go cheap when you make it, its always going to be very expensive to make one. The cheaper you make it, the less life span it will have. I'm not saying blow out your credit card but I mean using the right material will increase the greenhouses lifespan.

Our greenhouse cost about 1500$, not including the used carport that was already on the property when we bought it that we used to create the outline of the greenhouse. We just stripped the metal off of the carport and replaced it with panels.

I wouldn't do clay balls, reason for this being is that ITS WAY unnecessarily expensive to do that method. And I know a lot of people who will disagree but its completely true. Using MGMCPS is the best way to go, with the soil lvl being half full of water. Way faster plant growth, simple to setup, costs around 50$ not including plants, its just a hell of a lot easier take my word for it. With a clay ball setup its Aquaponics or Hydroponics at that point. meaning you need to add Fertilizers that cost around 20$ or so just off the top of my head, every... 5 months? depending on how much your adding and for what plants. And you need to have circulation so its not just standing water so throw in that.. around 60-100$ and lets add the reservoir... 50$-100$ maybe...

A lot of wasted money. And I'm not just talking about money but overall plant growth is better with soil anyway. Clay ball provides Very slow plant growth compared to the soil method.

Hope that helped a bit :clap2:

 

[NorCalnomad]

Fantastic, thanks for the link and information I will be researching a good mix and keeping what you said about the greenhouse in mind.


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[DutchMuch]

Fantastic, thanks for the link and information I will be researching a good mix and keeping what you said about the greenhouse in mind.

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Hey if you do end up making the greenhouse or something, an emersed setup or anything like that, definitely keep me/us updated on that.. :flame:

 

[DutchMuch]

Not much to update on... -10 degrees here avrg. about and everything has died, some permanently and some species will come back.

 

[DutchMuch]

So ive been planning for the entire winter, to use the spare agrobite i have that i was using on my 65, to grow more plants in my closet which i barely use for anything. Here is the plan, i need advice and comments!

*the hanging brown thing is the light, and the red bars are the metal hanging rack thing*