i am fairly new the the planted part of the hobby, and would have to agree with you all. and i would like to reiterate one point that was made that i made when starting off. patience. i do not have a lot of it in normal things, and carried that into this. needless to say, many calls to the shrink and dollars later, i figured that slow and easy is the way to go. i don't have to have the best looking tank (for now :twisted: ) but i should enjoy the journey. that, i think, is crucial to being a somewhat successful planted tank geek, imho!