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Man that stuff looks awesome!

Looks like you're growing it in regular gravel?? Does it not need special care?
This tank's substrate is 3 years old ADA aquasoil. The white "sand" in the picture is actually ADA
power sand that came out from aquasoil (I should have brought black power sand special instead of
*********** sand 3 years ago).

I think Tonina Uaupes is the most challenging Tonina to grow. They are very easy to melt for unknown reasons.
My experience is that the basic requirements to grow this plant are KH < 1 and well fertilized water.
In addition, moderate light is better than direct (strong) light.
 

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I'm surprised this took this long to sell! I've been looking for this for a longgggg time, not even my friends could get this for me because it's hard to find where they are too.

A true unique and uncommon sp...thanks for making this one available suaojan!!
 

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Got the belem's today and they look great!

Thanks!
 

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My experience is that the basic requirements to grow this plant are KH < 1 and well fertilized water.
In addition, moderate light is better than direct (strong) light.
really, it was my impression that most toninas require very high light would you say moderate light is favored for belem too? I just got some super healthy belem from a friend (tom barr) and its starting to look raggy in my tank for unkown reasons. I have about 5.5 wpg CFL, adequate pressurized co2, heavy EI ferts, ADA aquasoil, kh around 2, very good flow/ filtration and it still isn't looking good. any help would be appreciated
 

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really, it was my impression that most toninas require very high light would you say moderate light is favored for belem too? I just got some super healthy belem from a friend (tom barr) and its starting to look raggy in my tank for unkown reasons. I have about 5.5 wpg CFL, adequate pressurized co2, heavy EI ferts, ADA aquasoil, kh around 2, very good flow/ filtration and it still isn't looking good. any help would be appreciated
Don't need to worry too much. I think your belems are just trying to accommodate to their new home. The old leaves of Toninas might melt a little bit when they change environment. I think belems can do well in both high and low lights. However, unlike Belem, Uaupes seldom grows taller than 2". Therefore, I believe they don't need much light in nature. Nonetheless, it's still possible to grow Uaupes in high light but the margin of errors will be narrow because they will melt much faster in high light :rolleyes:. I think the key to grow Tonina is keep your KH as low as possible (remove any rock in the tank that may raise KH). A few tips for growing Toninas: if you find brown spots on the leaves, dose more K. If you find the leaves become yellowish, dose more N. If you find the old leaves start to melt, lower KH and check your filter. And if you find the new leaves melt, remove the plant because it might be caused by infection. I hope this helps :D
 

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it was my impression that most toninas require very high light
Very untrue, I grow them in low light in some of my tanks with no issues. Even now my backup tank are heavily overgrown. All my Mato Grossos, Goais, Vomits blood, Toninas, other unknown that I have ...etc are getting very low light due to floaters and I experience no issues whatsoever.

Water quality, fert routine & Co2 is much more important to these species than light.

A few tips for growing Toninas: if you find brown spots on the leaves, dose more K. If you find the leaves become yellowish, dose more N. If you find the old leaves start to melt, lower KH
I concur
 

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I've been looking for this one longer than you buddy
I'm sure you have my friend :O Not to worry I will help to make it more readily available for those who appreciate the sp.
 

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okay thanks for the help guys it was my assumption that they might be adapting to new waters its been in my tank for 3-4 days the growth on the top looks really healthy I might just whack all the lower growth and only plant the tops.

"A few tips for growing Toninas: if you find brown spots on the leaves, dose more K. If you find the leaves become yellowish, dose more N. If you find the old leaves start to melt, lower KH"

I like that rule of thumb hehe ill have to remember that

I guess plant finder isn't always correct when it comes to light
requirements haha ;)
 
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