I know what your second plant is, Steve. It is yellow dock aka curled dock, Rumex crispus. I doubt that it can grow underwater. It is common here in Mississippi, and it looks strictly terrestrial to me. I don't recognize your second plant. Was it under water when you found it?
The light colored lobelia-like one was found in a dried out ravine near exit 33 on rt 37 (the way to San Marcos :wink: ). It probably gets flooded only once or twice per year. I was on my way to Lake Corpus Christi. The north end of the lake unfortunately just had a lot of Water hyacinth, dead from a frost.
Pickings are really sparse down here. I dream about those ludwigia-filled Mississippi ditches.
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