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This pic was taken by Ricky Cain at the AGA 2003, I believe on the feild trip to the Wetlands conservatory. It's listed as a Nymphoides species on the photo credits.

Anyone know what it is? Please and Thankyou!!!

 

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Could be the common Banana plant (Nymphoides aquatica), which you can get at pet stores, see:

http://plants.ifas.ufl.edu/nyaqpic.html .

Whenever you have a question like this first try these resources:

Plant ID Databases

http://plants.usda.gov/index.html
United States Department of Agriculture Natural Resources Conservation Service Plants Database
This is a great site to find out where a plant grows within the USA.

http://aquat1.ifas.ufl.edu/welcome.html
Center for Aquatic and Invasive Plants at the University of Florida
This is another good site with data on hundreds of invasive and non-invasive plants many of which are found outside Florida

http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/gallery/gallery_query.htm
Digital Flora of Texas Vascular Plant Image Library
Lots of good photos of plants

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Steve Pituch
 

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Thanks for the replies.

Spituch,

Before I aimlessly wandered through the internet likely wasting much of my time, I thought I would ask to see if anyone was familiar with the species. As far as I could tell, it's not N. aquatica, as these leaves are red, and the literature I am familiar with cite N. aquatica as having green leaves.

One person thought it might be N. cordata, but I am not sure of this as the leaf in the lower right hand side of the pic is more then 2inches, which I think is the max leaf size for the N. cordata. I could be wrong.

If I was sure what this plant was I wouldn't have asked. I wish ID'ing a plant was as easy as looking for a few pics. Thanks for the links though.
 

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Justin,

I think you are right about it being Nymphoides cristata. I think the flower and the cut of the floating leaves at the stem look like it.

Myself and others on the list have tried to get botanists and aquatic biologists to help us with ID'ing the plants we find. We have found very few people willing to help. And then, most of the time their suggested identifications are way off. However, when I ask a professional about an ID, the alway say that they need the plant to flower before anyone can positively ID the plant.

We should be looking to match the flower, especially the organs at the center of it. The leaves can be very variable. You can make just about any FW aquatic plant leak turn red according to the environment. The N. aquatica in Kasselmann's book has similarly shaped red leaves.

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Actually now that I think of it. N. cristata is very similar to N. cordata, as well as a couple others, could even be a hybrid.

I am not a pro at ID'ing flowers. Do you happen to know anything about it?
 

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Justin,

I don't have much experience with successfully IDing plants. Technically one needs to make the plant flower, and then take the specimen to a botanist who has access to similar dried samples. I've seen bibliographies of plant samples in Texas, and where each one is stored. I guess you could make an ID by knowing the exact description of the flower organs of your plant and comparing it to the description of a documented and comfirmed specimen. However, when I read Kasselmann's book, most of the botany terms used to descibe the plants are not in the glossary in the back of the book, so it usually doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
The one time I did make a decent ID was of a plant I found that looked like a Ludwigia or Hygrophila. When it flowered we were able to confirm that it was Ammannia latifolia. See it at:
http://users.ev1.net/~spituch/Steve's Page/Aquarium/Texas Plants/y/y.html#Ammannia latifolia
However, I still have a bunch of plants that I still haven't identified.

Do you live in Texas? If not, if I see a small lilly type of plant in my forays this year I will grab a couple for you.

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No I don't live in Texas. I actually live in Vancouver BC Canada. I was at the AGA but I didn't go on the feild trip.

The reason this pic caught my eye was the lack of visible vein structure on the top of the small leaf in the pic. Also note the lack of red speckling. I find it quite attractive, and was hoping to ID it so I could attempt to locate it, as I would love to aquire some!
 
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