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Limnobium Laevigatum look pale

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In my newly setup (started March 4th) planted aquarium (30 liter nano cube with 1 inch of soil and 1 inch of 2-4 mm gravel) and about 7 different plants), I have 11 Neocaridina shrimp, one Faunus sp. cappuccino, and one black horn snail.

I am currently feeding Sera Shrimps nature Food (5-10 of those tiny balls per day) and we are just starting out testing with a little brown oak leaf.

The water is currently clear but is tinted brownish/greenish. I do not really mind about that and will maybe ask in another thread. Maybe it is the root you can see. The gravel layer also got thinned out at the back end somehow.

What I am wondering about, is why the Limnobium is so pale at some leaves. I do not see any other plant having issues. They all look good to me in color and growth. The Limnobium also grows just fine, but is pale sometimes and does not look so healthy.

I thought the plants would get fertilized with the food I am adding. Is it not enough or is there anything else wrong?

My last water change (30%) was one week ago.

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People have successfully added extra iron ferts into the water column for floating plants.
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Thank you for the quick answers ;)

So, iron may be the problem or missing fertilizer. I am glad that this could be spotted by @mistergreen and @Jorge Soirse so quickly ;)

I took the book "Planted Aquarium" by @dwalstad and went through some of the chapters mentioning iron, nutrition and fertilizing.

One aspect I found interesting is how iron is made accessible to plants by photo-chemical reaction in the water (DOC-Fe3+ + Light -> Fe2+ + oxidized DOC).
Another aspect was that fertilizing should be done via adding fish food (shrimp food in my case).
The last interesting aspect was especially the penetration rate of iron in fish food (no matter what kind of food), which should be absolutely enough.

Diana also writes that rooted plants get their iron from the soil, which would support my observation of the rooted plants looking totally fine. I also have a Ceratophyllum floating in the water, which look pale as well, but not so much). So my guess is that you are right and it is the iron missing in the water that is not accessible to the floaters. This is supported by the fact that there are absolutely no visible algae in my aquarium and the glass is totally clear.

But the solution of adding fertilizer seems to easy to me and not appealing. The whole point for me to try Dianas approach was that I would not need such things. Of course, there is no problem in adding fertilizer to my aquarium, but is there a better, easier, and more sustainable way?

At the moment my lighting consists of a Fritz 500 WiFi Color Bulb with an approximated 800 Lumen at full intensity and the color temperature set to 5300K. I am using this bulb at 60% intensity for 2 x 5 hours with 2 hours rest in between. I guess that 1% intensity is about 300 Lumen and that it is now somewhere around 650 Lumen.

Can this problem be handled by giving the DOC longer and more intense periods of light and maybe even more daily food? The aquarium is standing 3 meters away from southwards facing windows. At the moment it is not directly touched by sunlight, but I guess it will in summer.
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If you have no algae, and there's a good plant mass and growth, then yes, feed more. I used to try targeting specific nutrients with fish food, EG zucchini for potassium deficiencies. But I can't say for sure that it worked.
Some floating plants do fine in my tanks, especially the dirtiest, without added iron. Adding a little extra fishfood might help.
What's called for here is tinkering!
Floating plant get all the air and light they need at the water surface. But they cannot access soil for nutrients. So if floating plants are not doing well the most common cause is lack of macro and or maico nutrients. t might not be enough Shrimp don't produce a enough waist. So you are unlikely to gen enough nutrients from them and feeding. Since the rooted plants can access nutrients in the soil they will likely supplement that with nutrients from the water. leaving nothing for the floaters. very light supplementation with a fertilizer probably would help. If you don't increase water nutrient levels either trough food waist or fertilizer, Your routed plants might rapidly go through the nutrients in the substrate. Leading to a generally worsening situation that could spread to other plants.
Thanks for all the useful information. We started fertilization and have already seen, that light fertilization is well enough to not let the algae overtake. Until we started fertilization there was up to no algae and our black snail seemed to not find enough food. The other one ate what the shrimp got as well, no problem. Now two of our shrimp are hatching eggs, so soon enough there will be more shrimp waist. I'll report back ;)
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