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My Apistogramma Walstad Tank

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I gave up on the idea of using an acrylic tank after the one I had ordered arrived with great big gash in the lower left hand corner. Have no idea how it got there. I assume it left the seller in usable condition. These things happen:
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But, it left me with a bucket full of plants and four Borelli cichlids on their way from a dealer in Alabama. So, I relied the only thing I thought I had any control over - my junk closet. And, from there I pulled out an old war horse from the 1980s, a 30 gallon long glass tank complete with flourescent light hood. Imagine my surprise when the light and ballast still worked!

Not knowing exactly when the fish would arrive, I immediately went to work mineralizing the soil. I did it the quick and dirty way - in the tank itself. Basically, anything that floated after I added about three inches of water got skimmed off (and put into the "dry" storage pot.)

The water was a nice dark chocolate soup at that point so I was rather anxious to put a cap on it. The STS I chose had some welcome and unwelcome surprises. Among the pluses was the fact that it soon became apparent that a 50 pound bag no longer seems the white elephant that it once did six months ago. I must have gone through about 10 pounds just covering the bottom of the tank by an inch. Another pleasant thing about STS is that it feels very soft to the touch when inserting the plants; I could barely tell where it ended and the soil began. The apistos should have no problem sucking it into their mouths.

The bad part was how much dust comes out in the rinsing. It was absolutely soupy and showed little sign of really coming clean. I remembered @dwalstad 's advice about not overdoing the rinsing (some of that dust may have denitrifying potential) and stopped when the soup became a mere broth.

Luckily, I had plenty of floaters on hand. Didn't need to cull them this week. Just transferred half the ones in my porcelain bowl:
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Next went the newly sprouted red lotus. It seems happy to be in water:
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Next was the lovely but diffident lily that started me on the road to dirt eight months ago but which I hadn't fully seen since the bowl got taken over by lotuses. This was a good move for it since (apparently) it no longer had any pads:

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Then, as I continued ferrying water (5 gallons at a time via a bucket) from my bathroom to the tank, i stopped and looked at it and thought to myself "Gosh, if I were a Borelli cichlid, that would look perfect right about there." The water was nearly halfway up the tank. They're bottom swimmers. They're territorial. For them, its' about length and width. Height, not so much. So, I stopped about here:

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I'm agnostic at this point. According to the seller, the fish won't be shipped out before next week. I have time to decide. It looks murky now, but I'm assuming things will settle down in short order, if algae doesn't become a problem.

Ammonia tests out at:

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What would you call that? About a 1 ppm?
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I don't disinfect after every batch, just after I see the hatch rate go down.
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I was thinking about placing a germination heat mat under the dish to see if that would increase the h
I use one. It definitely increases yield and even shortens the hatching period:

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I use one. It definitely increases yield and even shortens the hatching period:
Holy mother of hatch success! I just prepared a batch last night and put it on a heat mat set to 80. 18 hours later, I have more than triple the amount that I usually get in 2 days.
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Until recently, there hasn't been much to report. The livestock count has slowly risen to include two Amano shrimp and eight nerite snails since last Christmas, all in an effort to turn the corner on the algae situation. I've been pleased with the results so far: the gnarly old anubias is being maintained pretty well by the shrimp. And the glass sides are slowly being wiped clean of that stubborn green stain that resisted even my most vigorous attempts at manual scrubbing. That's the good news.

Over the space of the last day or so, however, the fish - four adults and one juvie - all tank-raised, have begun to exhibit cramped fins. I first noticed it on one adult female yesterday and immediately reacted by putting her in a breeding box to keep her from getting picked on. This morning I noticed the male with same symptoms and along with a noticeable loss of color:
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This is the first time in over two years of Walstad tank experimentation that I've had to seriously consider the possibility of fish disease in any of my calculations. Up until today, all I've ever had to be concerned with were water parameters. The ammonia and nitrate levels are both -0-. The tank is 14 months old and working on its third generation of apistos:
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When in doubt, do a water change. Look around for anaerobic spots.
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Looks like the problem is a serious nitrite build-up:
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Incomplete nitrification process?
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That is weird for an old running tank. Check your pH with a kit that can go below 6. If it’s below 6, the bacteria will have a hard time.
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The nitrogen parameters look better after a 50% water change. I'm headed out of town so, I really am not prepared to take on a PH battle 🙃. Hoping the fish can hold on until I get back:
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You can easily fix the pH with a bag of oyster shells or any calcium carbonate in the tank.
It's with great sadness that I have to report the impending end of my apistogramma walstad tank. All four adult fish are confirmed dead. Today marks exactly one week since I first noticed the symptoms of constricted fins and sluggishness. A 50% water change seemed to solve a mysterious spike in nitrites; but it didn't reverse the symptoms which seemed to be limited to the adult fish. None of the invertebrates were affected; the two amano shrimp are still hopping around from plant to plant, doing their thing. The snails seem unperturbed.

And here's the head-scratcher: The grand-kid is doing just fine. Which leads me to wonder whether this die-off has more to do with developmental problems associated with being tank-raised fish rather than a particular disease? One day, they were all swimming around, chasing each other and the next they were acting like shriveled up, elderly fish (not that I have that much experience with geriatric fish.) But to me, it's almost as if someone flicked a switch that said, "All right, your year of existence is up!"

Nevertheless, I have very few regrets. As followers of this journal will attest, it was a wild ride from Day 1. I never thought my 25 year-old 30 gallon tank would ever see another day's use and yet, it has been the set-piece of my apartment "conservatory" for over 14 months.

Other highlights:

This was my first completely dirted tank. And as it turned out, that was the easiest part of the whole experience. Once the nitrogen parameters stabilized, the plants pretty much performed as described in ETA and the 5 lbs. of garden soil sitting at the bottom of the tank became a non-issue.

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The only time I have ever been able to raise egg-laid fry to adulthood.

So, in summary, the grandkid now has the tank to his or herself with a huge housekeeping staff of snails, shrimp and, of course - myself. I would have second thoughts about raising apistos in a 30 gallon tank; you need to plan for the possibility that there will be more than one male in the tank at the same time.

There is a strong possibility that I will add the grandkid to the porcelain bowl where his grandfather (or, great-uncle) now rules the roost. But I want to make sure of their gender before I make that decision:
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Update: I no longer have to worry about the possibility of having too many male apistos. The old bull is MIA in the porcelain bowl. He was the last of the original four a. borelli purchased by mail-order 14 months ago. Rather than undertaking a gruesome search and recovery for his body, I am instead removing the remaining three glo-fish zebra danio and letting the robust terrestrials growing out of the porcelain bowl make a feast out of him.

The danios are now here with the apisto grand-kid.
Oh man, I totally missed your update from april. For one reason or another it didn't appear in my alerts. And I was wondering how it was going. So sad hear the sudden end of the apisto adventure. And so frustrating to have it end in a totally incomprehensible way :(. One year is quite young for apisto's isn't it? Maybe the nitrite spike was just too much for their older body's to overcome? But indeed, where did those nitrites come from and why wasn't it consumed by the lucky bamboo and the floaters? So many questions...

I really enjoyed following the adventures of this tank and it's inhabitants! So please keep posting 😊
Update: I no longer have to worry about the possibility of having too many male apistos. The old bull is MIA in the porcelain bowl. He was the last of the original four a. borelli purchased by mail-order 14 months ago. Rather than undertaking a gruesome search and recovery for his body, I am instead removing the remaining three glo-fish zebra danio and letting the robust terrestrials growing out of the porcelain bowl make a feast out of him.

The danios are now here with the apisto grand-kid.
By the way, haven't you had MIA's before that reappeared miraculously?
By the way, haven't you had MIA's before that reappeared miraculously?
Yes! One of the disadvantages of the porcelain bowl is that it's next to impossible to see what's going on at the bottom of it. And, apistos have a habit of hiding out when they re not feeling well, that's true. It may be macabre to say this, but the one bit of hope I have is the fact that the bubbler has not flushed out a corpse and it's been a week already.

But indeed, where did those nitrites come from and why wasn't it consumed by the lucky bamboo and the floaters?
My latest theory is that there was a drop in the ambient room temperature when the building management turned off the heat at the end of April. It wasn't enough to cause any alarms to go off in my mind - from the high 70s to the low 70s. But maybe that was enough for the bacteria to stall? And I'm not sure what @dwalstad has to say about plant uptake of nitrites - it might not be as efficient as the uptake by bacteria?
And, just out of curiosity, I just tested the PH. It's pretty high:
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I should probably use the High Range test and maybe I will do that another day.
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Wow, that is pretty high indeed! Couldn't that be the culprit? Any idea why it is so high?

That temperature drop, I'm not sure. My tank was colder than 70 from the beginning, in fact today was the first day I saw it reaching 70. But no nitrites. Then it must have been a shock because of the difference if it was the temperature?

And isn't the lucky bamboo very effecient for ammonia uptake leaving less to be transformed to nitrites?

Sorry, I'm not helping, just creating more questions 🤦‍♀️
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And isn't the lucky bamboo very effecient for ammonia uptake leaving less to be transformed to nitrites?
That's a very excellent point. My hypothesis is that there is something about nitrite uptake (whether it be by plant or bacteria) that allows it to build up very quickly, if the process is interrupted for any reason.
Well, it would appear that the last act has ended for the apistogramma tank. I made up my mind yesterday, to do a thorough cleaning; I had become embarrassed by the amount hair algae that was clinging onto everything and had pretty much pinpointed the half-inch of mulm that had accumulated over 14 months as the primary magnet. It's rich in nutrients, but wasn't being utilized very efficiently by the rooted plants underneath nor (apparently) by the terrestrial plants, including the anubias that took up so much space. So, I decided to vaccum as much of it up as I could and do a 90% water change.

To me, it made sense to remove all the livestock while I was filling the tank back up because then I could add the liquid conditioner at the end of the process instead of five gallons at a time as I ferried the water from the bathroom tap by pail. To that end, and after much chasing around, I had everyone in an old acrylic, refrigerator crisper that I've enlisted for various purposes over the years. Everything was fine until I started returning everyone to the newly vaccumed tank. The amano shrimp, while quick and quirky in their moves, were no match for the confined space. The seven nerite snails? No problem.

Only the grandkid gave me a problem. His survival skills were evident from the beginning as he evaded the net and even fought staying in it each time he was cornered. Finally, just as I had him the lip of the net and was a second away from transferring him - he jumped from edge of the net and landed several feet onto a hard floor.

He was not moving and it took about a minute to actually figure out how to move him without crushing him. I somehow was able to push him into the net and swish him around the porcelain bowl which was close by. At first, he seemed stiff as a board. But as i looked closer, i could tell he was breathing. I kept swirling him around to keep him breathing and he seemed to regain consciousness. But the fall had clearly injured something because he could not use both fins to swim in a straight line. He kept spiraling around in a tight circle. I decided it was best to let him stay in the porcelain bowl where he wouldn't be harassed by other fish. Right now, he is MIA along with his grandfather, the Old Bull - who he never met.
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Really sorry to hear that. I hope he makes a recovery.
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