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Hello,

I'm in the process of starting a pair of new ADA Mini nanos so I thought I'd create a journal to share my experience and get advice. Here are the specs for the tanks:

Mini-L

Light: Archaea 36W CF clip-on
Filter: Eheim 2211
Heater: Hydor ETH 200 in-line
CO2: Archaea regulator with paintball adapter (used with Sera Aktiv reactor)
Substrate: ADA Aquasoil Amazonia Normal & Powder
Stone: ADA Ryuoh
Flora: Hemianthus callitrichoides and Eleocharis acicularis
Fauna: Boraras merah, corydoras pygmaeus, CRS

Mini-M

Light: ADA Solar Mini-M
Filter: Eheim 2213
Heater: Hydor ETH 201 in-line
CO2: Fluval CO2 88 system (discussed here)
Substrate: ADA Aquasoil Amazonia Normal & Powder
Stone: ADA Ohko
Flora: Utricularia graminifolia
Fauna: CPDs and CBS

Here are the images:

Mini-L tank with AS Amazonia substrate


ADA Ryuoh stones (approx. 15 lbs)


New Eheim 2213 canister


CO2 equipment


HC


Archaea light on Mini-L


Hardscape in Mini-M


Closeup of ohko stones


To be continued...
 

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Currently, the Mini-L is in its second week of the dry start. All of the plantlets are alive, but nearly all of the previously submerged leaves have melted and new smaller, brighter green leaves have appeared. The dwarf hairgrass is doing great. There's no browning of the leaves at all. There's a lot of new growth and it's sending runners that are popping up new plants. I'm planning on adding a clear plastic divider to keep it contained.

I'm misting the substrate with water and Excel+Flourish once a day. The top is covered with saran wrap (with holes).



For the Mini-M, I had UG growing emmersed for about a week while I was waiting for the supplies to come in. I planted it yesterday. It was a looooooonnnnngggg and extremely tedious process. I wanted the UG to fill in faster so I separated all the blades and planted each individually.



I'd appreciate any comments and suggestions! :)
 

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Thank you!

It looks almost like you have a solenoid attached to your Fluval 88?
That's the paintball regulator you're looking at, not the one included with the Fluval set.

I am on the lookout for an in-line solenoid for it though. The advice I'm getting is that none will work because the pressure will back into the regulator and damage it.
 

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Nice tanks. I love your ohko stones. I'm also kind of interested to see how your Fluval co2 system works for you. I'm looking at getting it myself, but for a larger tank, and modified to use 24 oz co2 tanks. It looks like a nice system.
 

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Interesting; I guess I never figured you'd need CO2 in those size tanks. I look forward to seeing the fauna incorporated into the scape.
 

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Nice tanks. I love your ohko stones. I'm also kind of interested to see how your Fluval co2 system works for you. I'm looking at getting it myself, but for a larger tank, and modified to use 24 oz co2 tanks. It looks like a nice system.
I don't actually have it running yet, but I like how it looks so far. I swapped out the bubble counter and diffuser that came with the kit for some eBay glass ones. I also bought a brass check valve (should have been included with the kit IMO). Here's what it looks like on the Mini-M (sans water):



Interesting; I guess I never figured you'd need CO2 in those size tanks. I look forward to seeing the fauna incorporated into the scape.
I've always had DIY CO2 in my nanos and it was always a pain, so this time I decided to go for a mini pressurized kit. I've read that UG can be hard to grow without CO2.

I can't wait to move my CPDs into this new set-up. I should get to that point around Christmas time :clap2:
 

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Mini-L - 3rd week

All the immersed leaves have melted away by now leaving only the newly formed emersed leaves. There's a little bit of yellowing that I'm attributing to the 36W light so I decided to raise the fixture 2" higher. I'm also misting it with water containing Flourish iron. Growth isn't as fast as I was hoping it'll be.



Mini-M - 2nd week

Not much change in the UG plantlets. There's no evidence of melting to be seen, but no new growth either. I'm hoping that it's because the plants are devoting all its energy into developing new roots before new leaves can appear.

 

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Mini-L - 4th week

HC showed some minor growth in the last 7 days, but nothing significant. On the other hand, the DHG is really taking off. There's a ton of new growth on it. It's a good thing I have a plastic divider (beneath the substrate) to help keep it contained. At the rate it's going, I could probably get a full DHG carpet in half the time compared to the HC.





Mini-M - 3rd week

Lots of new blades starting to emerge from the substrate. I'm guessing the roots have sufficiently developed and are starting to send out new leafy growth. Hopefully there'll be a lot of visible growth in the next few weeks.



 

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Mini-L - 5th week

More lackluster growth from the HC. For the hardscape, I raised the stones higher and added about 1 cm more substrate.





Mini-M - 4th week

I tweaked the Ohko stones arrangement and raised it up a bit. Not much new UG growth this week.



 

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Thanks schg!

Missed a week because of business around Christmastime. Here's the latest update...

Mini-L - 8th week

Some parts of the HC is growing really well, but most of it isn't. There's quite a bit of yellowing. I think the uneven slopes are causing some of the higher parts to dry out. I'll give this another week or two and then I'll just flood the tank if things don't improve.





Mini-M - 7th week

The UG is filling in really well now. Lots of new growth now that the roots had a chance to develop.



 

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Hi there, just want to ask if did you get an emersed form of UG or is it in submersed form already and you just convert it? i want to emerse some UG in the future. and did you also cover your UG tank with saran warp? what kinds of fertz do you spray with it? thanks!

Nice tank and stones
 

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Thank you!

Since I bought my UG online, I'm not too sure if it was originally grown submerged or emersed. However, I was able to plant it emersed without any melting.

I'm only spraying it with dechlorinated water and not adding any fertilizer right now. The plants are getting all their nutrients from the Aquasoil. From what I've read, UG gets most of its nutrients from the water column and not its roots. Once the tanks are flooded I'll use my Pfertz fertilizers.

I do cover the tanks with Saran wrap to keep the humidity levels high (with holes to allow for some gas exchange).

Hope this helps!
 

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thank you very much bro, im planning to order to fertilizers from Pfertz, another question can i grow it with ADA Amazonia 2 normal type substrate? because from what i have read you used normal and powder type thanks again, hope to see more of your tank, and another whats the wattage of your light thanks....
 

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You can definitely use all Amazonia II normal size substrates. I went with a topcoat of powder because I like the grain size in proportion to the tank. The two sizes got mixed up when I played around with the rock placement so my substrate is pretty much a mixture of the two now. It doesn't really matter IMO.

As for the wattage, the Archaea fixture on the Mini-L is 36W and the Solar Mini-M is 27W.
 

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I'm definitely going to have to keep an eye on your progress with the UG, as I am planning on growing it emmersed in my 30c in AS as well. I will also be using Pfertz and pressurized CO2 when I fill the tank, so hopefully you have success as well.

I guess I should post a tank thread on this forum as well...lol
 

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Thanks, schg! Sounds like your plans are similar to mine. If I can do it, it's pretty safe to say that anyone can. It just took a lot of reading. Good luck with your tank and definitely start a journal so we can follow the progress!
 
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