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I dont know what either of you just said :D but if you would like my personal experience with reds, its this; my reds didnt turn red until I added phosphate. Also way back when I was clueless and didnt dose nitrates, my reds still came out pretty deep. I will also mention that the lighting at the time was 72 watts over a 10 gallon. Pardon if my info is totally irrelevant. :shock:
 
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