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Is this resolved?

 

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Well, it's not so much a fix as a proposed improvement. In addition to the following in the data entry panel for each entry:

Name of plant:
Family:
ADD NEW FAMILY
Location:
Region:
Size:
Lighting Requirements:
Difficulty:
Growth Rate:
Genus:
Aquascape Placement:
Plant Type:
Category:
Can Be Grown Emersed:

There would be:

Hobby synonyms

Any entered hobby synonym would show up in the box everyone sees on the main PF page that lets you search by genus. Syngonanthus sp. 'Belem' was Tonina sp. 'Belem'. I'd enter Tonina sp. 'Belem' as a synonym for it. Searching for it would bring up the real Tonina as well as Syngonanthus. Does that explain it?

OH, so right now 1 of the Tonina shows up. So you would like another search option that brings up synonyms?

 

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Cavan I am going to begin work on this ASAP. My applogies for the long time to respond. Been really busy fixing some issues around the network.

I am still unsure of exactly what you want.

So you want each entry to be able to be referenced by multiple genus names (since the genus may have changed, or multiple genus may be listed for the species?)?

 

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Yes, thanks. I'd like a synonym field for each entry. You could search by the synonym as well as the current name. So, one could do a search for Tonina and it would bring up plants formerly called Tonina (now Syngonanthus). I would therefore enter Tonina as a synonym for the two Syngonanthus. Whatever I'd put in the synonym field would come up in the drop down menu for genus search.

So would I add an additional search item on the search page or leave it the way as is and when you select Tonina is will bring up all Tonina entries as well as all ones with this listed in the synonym field.

 

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The second option.

Ok chief working on this now.

 

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Ok I am done. Check it out and see if that is what you want. I added a "Synonym" field where you can type in another name for the plant. Also, if a entry is pulled up via a synonym the synonym will show up in the search page.

 

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I did not add functionality to create a new genus from a synonym. that would get a bit messy IMO.

 

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I have added a display item on the details page as well as the list page which will list any synonyms should they exist.

 

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I'm confused. I don't think there's really any difference between the Tonina/Syngonanthus situation and the others. Lamiaceae sp. was in there as Hemigraphis traian at one time. The functionality of the former is all I need. I didn't mean to imply that there should be something else as well (I do like and want to keep that last thing you added).

So you want the synonym Hemigraphis traian to be searchable from the genus Hemigraphis? But Hemigraphis is not a listed Genus because you moved the entry to Lamiaceae sp. and subsequentially Hemi was removed from the genus dropdown menu. You want to be able to create genus's without creating another entry. Am I understanding this correct?

 

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On further investigation I fail to see either Hemigraphis traian or Lamiaceae sp. listed anywhere in the plantfinder when I clicked view all records. Is there an entry anywhere? I dont see it.

 

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Oops. I moved Lamiaceae to Hyptis (the former is the family, not genus - it's a gradual process..) assuming that it would work. (Hemigraphis - totally wrong, Lamiaceae - family, Hyptis - correct genus). So yeah, I think it would be best if you could search for whatever I put in the synonym field, regardless of whether there's an entry for a plant in that genus or not.

The problem with adding genus that exist only in the synonyms is that it is harder to keep good data. Esp if multiple synonyms exist is would be really hard to insure that the names were parsed correctly. I could make a search box that could search all fields or something. The problem is with how this system is designed, if I start hacking things in here this thing will become a mess to maintain.

 

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Is the danger that information might be put in there incorrectly? I could be careful. Would it be better if there was more than one synonym field or some way to separate synonyms in that entry box?

Yea thats the problem. Since there are multiple synonyms its makes it much harder to store/process the data in MYSQL. Remember that anything I change with the system has to be changed in at least 2 different places, and usually more than that. I have to account for any new functionality and/or issues with each addition. I think that just adding a freeform search option will more than satisfy the needs of the system.

 

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Ok the search functionality is added in now.

 

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Looks like it works well. Thanks a bunch Pere.

A minor nitpick, but when you do a search for synonyms without entering anything in the box, it comes up with all the ones for which I've entered a synonym as well as few for which I have not. I accidentally entered one for Marsilea spp., but even after I removed it, it's still there. Again, not a big deal.

Can you give me the steps to reproduce this so I can debug it? Thanks!

 

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ok, I fixed this problem.

 

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Cool, thanks. Just one more thing though...how come they aren't in alphabetical order when you get on that page? It says ordered by alphabetical at the top.

Because in the name there are [/I] tags which in turn mess up the alphabetical sorting. Just an issue with data entry I suppose.

 

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Is there a way I can enter stuff so that doesn't happen?

Dont put the tags in there when entering the name perhaps? I am not sure if the program is the one doing it, or if its being entered that way.