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So as not to hijack a thread that brought up something i figured i would create a new one.

kmurphy said:
Another problem we face here in the US, the reason we can't get plants from places like Tropica, is that the US is pretty cautious about what kinds of plants it allows into the states, and how imported plants are packaged. For example, importers are only allowed to ship bare root plants into the states, this means that the little spongy material packed around the roots of Tropica plants won't fly.
Kmurphy maybe you can shed some light on this.
When i had my visit from the USDA (Thread in my forum for anyone interested) He informed me that potted plants could be shipped to the US in quantities less than 15. Have you ever heard of that?

Also another question I asked that he could not answer is
" Is it illegal to keep plants on the fed nox weed list as long as you do not sel them and dispost of properly?"

What is your take on that?
 

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I don't know off of the top of my head the full USDA regulations for aquatic plants but I will track them down at work on Monday and post them or a link.

As for federally listed noxious weeds, I think the regs are that they can't be imported, but if they are already here, the responsibiliy for regulating them should fall on the individual states.

I my state, we have both a noxious weed list, and a quarantine list. Not all the plants on the noxious weed list are on the quarantine list, and the quarantine list is the one that really prohibits the sale and distribution of the plants.

Aside from all the regulations, I beleive we in the aquatic gardening, and acuascaping hobby have a responsibility to how we manage our individual tanks, upon tear down. Even plants that aren't listed as noxious weeds could cause great harm if released into the wild.

If I am not mistaken, a majority of the aquatic submerged plants on my states Noxious Weed List were first brought into the state through the aquarium trade, and at some point, some irresponsible tank owner dumped the plants into the local water body. We need to not only be responsible with how we dispose of our own plants, but we must educate others in the hobby with the proper way to dispose of thier plants.

Dispose them in such a manner so that they will never come in contact with a water body. A good way is to put them in your compost pile. Or just throw them in your garden, they will decompose and all those nutrients you have been putting in your tank will now go into your garden.
 

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kmurphy said:
Aside from all the regulations, I beleive we in the aquatic gardening, and acuascaping hobby have a responsibility to how we manage our individual tanks, upon tear down. Even plants that aren't listed as noxious weeds could cause great harm if released into the wild.

If I am not mistaken, a majority of the aquatic submerged plants on my states Noxious Weed List were first brought into the state through the aquarium trade, and at some point, some irresponsible tank owner dumped the plants into the local water body. We need to not only be responsible with how we dispose of our own plants, but we must educate others in the hobby with the proper way to dispose of thier plants.

Dispose them in such a manner so that they will never come in contact with a water body. A good way is to put them in your compost pile. Or just throw them in your garden, they will decompose and all those nutrients you have been putting in your tank will now go into your garden.
I agree 100% on this issue. If all aquarists acted in a responsible manner then we would not have all of these laws that have to go into effect due to the negligence of a few.

I look forward to reading any info you may find!!
Thank you
 

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I spoke to my transshiper about this issue and he stated basically what kmurphy stated--US customs checks incoming shipments based on the Federal noxious list and it is up to each state to enforce their respective regulations.


I wholeheartedly agree with all of you about being careful with disposing of plant cuttings---whether on the noxious list or not. This time of year in NYC it is not as much of an issue as it is WICKED cold here, but in warmer weather, my compost pile gets a dose of aquatic cuttings and scraps every week when I do maintenance!!!!!
 

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I worked with Tropica to try and get them imported many years ago. It proved fruitless. Current laws require bare root shipments. Tropica grows in Grodan or rockwool. It would be cost prohibitive to manually remove the rockwool prior to shipment. The USDA did make an exception if Tropica met some requirements that were totally ridiculous.
 
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