What makes hair algae grow well ?
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What about phosphate?
IME, dealing with excess phosphate has almost always curbed a blossoming hair algae outbreak.
Of course, proper ratios of nutrients as well as light & CO2 are all most likely part of the equation.
IME, dealing with excess phosphate has almost always curbed a blossoming hair algae outbreak.
Of course, proper ratios of nutrients as well as light & CO2 are all most likely part of the equation.
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Phosphate or phosphorus is a plant nutrient. Your plants will make use of it quickly if they are healthy and growing.
If you have a high phosphate input (e.g., discus with frozen food additions), then it can get out of hand and create a nutrient imbalance. Nitrate and iron can also cause algae problems.
If you have a high phosphate input (e.g., discus with frozen food additions), then it can get out of hand and create a nutrient imbalance. Nitrate and iron can also cause algae problems.
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...which brings us back to proper ratios. If anything is limiting in plant growth requirements, algae are more likely to grab hold and use whatever is there that isn't being used by the plants due to lack of something else. In that respect, I don't think it can be narrowed down to lack or excess of any one specific thing - be it lights, CO2 or nutrients. It would seem mostly case specific.
Since I feed mainly frozen food, this is probably why I have experienced the phosphate-algae correlation. FWIW, a while back, I started soaking my frozen food in RO water for about an hour before feeding. The health of the fish doesn't seem to be compromised in the least, and the orthophosphate present in all food is very soluble in water. I figure it can't hurt anything other than the algae I haven't had to deal with in a while. I thaw the food, let it soak, and pour it through a brine shrimp net.
I've been able to condition wild Apistos for breeding since doing this, which would lead me to believe that pre-soaking isn't removing essential nutrients to any large degree.
Since I feed mainly frozen food, this is probably why I have experienced the phosphate-algae correlation. FWIW, a while back, I started soaking my frozen food in RO water for about an hour before feeding. The health of the fish doesn't seem to be compromised in the least, and the orthophosphate present in all food is very soluble in water. I figure it can't hurt anything other than the algae I haven't had to deal with in a while. I thaw the food, let it soak, and pour it through a brine shrimp net.
I've been able to condition wild Apistos for breeding since doing this, which would lead me to believe that pre-soaking isn't removing essential nutrients to any large degree.
Thanks,
Interesting, especially since the tank with the most hair algae problems is an apisto tank and I feed frozen food :idea:
So apparantly the nutritionrich juices from the frozen food accelerate the growthrate of the algae.
I will try soaking the food as you mention Graham.
I have several other small tanks with a few plants in and mostly for fish. Those tanks may have limited algae growth but nothing like the medusa-infestation I am experiencing on the apisto tank.
There is one tank which recieves more frozen food then this one and has no algae growth - a real low light tank.
This leads me to conclude that hight light and nutritionrich food which leaches into the water will lead to hairalgae.
Of course I understand that a balance of light-nutrients-CO2 is the key but it is good to know how a variable can throw things off.
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Interesting, especially since the tank with the most hair algae problems is an apisto tank and I feed frozen food :idea:
So apparantly the nutritionrich juices from the frozen food accelerate the growthrate of the algae.
I will try soaking the food as you mention Graham.
I have several other small tanks with a few plants in and mostly for fish. Those tanks may have limited algae growth but nothing like the medusa-infestation I am experiencing on the apisto tank.
There is one tank which recieves more frozen food then this one and has no algae growth - a real low light tank.
This leads me to conclude that hight light and nutritionrich food which leaches into the water will lead to hairalgae.
Of course I understand that a balance of light-nutrients-CO2 is the key but it is good to know how a variable can throw things off.
Thanks
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I think it's more that phosphate is a component of many food preservatives. Even the seafood you buy fresh at the market is soaked in a phosphate-containing preservative solution. It's very soluble, so that's the main reason I believe you can prevent some of it from going into your tank.
If you feed food that is pre-enriched with a vitamin additive solution, soaking may remove that as well. One thing you could do is look for a vitamin supplement and soak your thawed and drained food in that for a bit. Of course, be sure it doesn't contain phosphate!
Most nutrients are in the tissue of the food, so unless the tissue itself is really damaged, I don't think nutrition is compromised to any significant degree. If it is, my fish certainly aren't showing it - fresh or marine.
If you feed food that is pre-enriched with a vitamin additive solution, soaking may remove that as well. One thing you could do is look for a vitamin supplement and soak your thawed and drained food in that for a bit. Of course, be sure it doesn't contain phosphate!
Most nutrients are in the tissue of the food, so unless the tissue itself is really damaged, I don't think nutrition is compromised to any significant degree. If it is, my fish certainly aren't showing it - fresh or marine.
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Not to beat the horse, but one thing worth remembering through all this is that like Art said, phosphate is a major plant nutrient. Absence is no better than overabundance (maybe worse). The bottom line is that if all nutrients are available and light and CO2 are adequate, plants will tend to outcompete the algae. If things get out of whack, having too much phosphate, IME, doesn't leave you much time to get things back in order. I'd take an excess of about any other nutrient over phosphate.
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