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What should I look in a digital camera that will take decent pictures of plants and fish? Nothing too special, but decent quality. Any recommendations?
 

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Thanks, I'll look at those and come back with questions if I have any.
 

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Well I don't normally like directing to other forums so I copied and pasted a post I made elswhere a while ago....


SO YOU WANT A DIGITAL CAMERA

Digital Vs. Film

Just like when choosing between glass tanks or acrylic tanks there are advantages to each, and those who swear by one or the other. For me I see advantages in each. As the internet is a digital media I will point out some advantages of digital.

Top Reasons for Digital Cameras

1. Instant Gratification. Good things come to those who wait, but sometimes you don't want to. Shoot, pick and print; or shoot, pick and upload. Whichever way you go you can be showing your shots in a few moments.
2. Take Two. Combined with the joy's of instant gratification comes the ability to reshoot immediately as needed. Hey we all need second chances, sometimes thirds and fourths even. Fish, just like two month olds don't hold still. Rather than waiting for prints you'll know right away.
3. Shoot to your hearts content. Some of us are passionate about our tanks, some are passionate about getting the moment. For those of us that are both a large enough media card will allow you to shoot for much longer than the average roll of film.
4. Keep what you need. As it's digital there's less waste and you only need to print out what you need. That might be one shot out of 200+ that fit on the card or it could be all of them. From a recent shoot I accepted 13 out of 115, and only liked 4 of the 115.

Things to Look For in Purchasing Digital

In no particular order here are some things to pay attention to when purchasing a digital camera.

Shutter Speed. Some of the fish we keep love to play a non stop game of tag, just because they are fast doesn't mean they shouldn't get a chance to get their picture taken. Even if they aren't the ones you plan to shoot there may come a time when you feel a need to shoot them i.e. illnesses and such. The ability to get a shutter speed of 1/30 will help to capture a zippy zebra danio.

Macro Focus. Or the ability for the camera to focus on close objects. This is often signified by a picture of a tulip somewhere on the camera. The best lighting and the best tank in the world will mean nothing if you have to shoot your cute little ottos from across the room. Many cameras come with macro focus, it may be a series of menus that need to be selected, or just one button.

Fast Lens. Basically the ability of the camera lens to open wide enough to allow for a fast shot in low light. This is given by an aperture of a small number, and in this case the smaller the better. An f-stop or aperture setting of 2.0 in macro mode is a good starting point.

Tripod Mount. Believe it or not, some cameras don't come with this basic feature. If the camera doesn't have a tripod mount and you have pictures that are blurry due to camera shake, you can always prop yourself against a chair or set the camera on a stack of books. Holding perfectly still is always a must, even if you have to hold your breath.

Film Speed. The cameras you look at should have some choices in varied film speed. This is a number taken from conventional film sensitivities that allows how much light the camera needs to shoot a good picture. These numbers can range from 50-800. Especially if your tank has little lighting go for a camera that has speeds of at least 400 ISO for shooting in low lit conditions such as a tank.

Mega Pixels. Every ones favorite, here is one case where bigger doesn't always mean the best. Depending on your publication medium you may be able to get a better deal on a camera by purchasing one that has less Mega Pixels. If you are thinking of displaying your pictures mostly on the web a lower mega pixel may work fine. If however you are considering entering in a photo competition you may want to go for the higher number.

700 is never enough...a few more words, just for fun.

At the time of this writing we're entering the eve of the holiday shopping season...there are likely to be some great deals on some great cameras out there, but before making a purchase be sure that you've done your research. I'm open to a PM @any time. I can't tell you straight out which camera out there is the best but if you've found a few that look good to you I can give my own opinion on them.

If your looking for a great site that does reviews on digital cameras I highly recomend http://www.dpreview.com over consumer reports. For the past few years I've been following their reviews and found little to no bias in their work, as well as comparison test shots for everything from noise and white balance to pincushion distortion and lens shading . Most all cameras that they have reviewed include a picture gallery and unlike some other sites they know cameras.

Happy Shooting :)

~"Anteia" Babelfish

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What I look for in a _digital_ camera:
- Use of regular AA batteries (use Ni-MH rechargeables)
- Has a threaded lens or adapter for using lenses, macro rings and filters
- Manual white balance setting
- Manual focus
- Optical Zoom (the more the better)
- Fast lens (the wider the lens the better)
- Full manual settings (flash, f stop, speed, ISO, pre-flash...)
- Maintains manual settings even if turned off!!! (you want to keep your white balance setting once you have found the perfect one)
- 50ISO (I exclusively shoot at 50ISO, I prefer longer exposures for low light conditions rather than granier ISO levels, in rare occasions 100 or 200 but never any higher)
- Wide shutter speed range (most cameras reach high shutter speeds but many lack good slow shutter speeds, 15 second is now a popular number for the slowest shutter speed, you also want many steps in between the high and low range)

The nice to have:
- Remote trigger or cable (can use delay timer otherwise)
- Hot shoe for external flash (A little DIY and you can make your own)
- PC driven and programmable shooting (great for time-lapse photography)
- Built in macro mode (macro and close-up lenses are usually better)
- Video with Audio capturing
- Lots of pixels (nice for zooming in and cropping but not a big deal, 3.2MP and above is a nice range. 2MP is still very valid if you are looking to save some $)
- Standard memory cards (usually cheaper to buy such as CF cards)

Those are the things that come to mind. One last HUGE feature is removable lenses but at the moment that is limited to the more expensive digital SLRs, but keep an eye on things, one day someone will catch on and bring out a removable lens on a normal digital camera. I was hoping Minolta would do this seeing their recent digital cameras look like SLRs...

Giancarlo Podio
 

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I'm looking at these 4 cameras (HP Photosmart 935, Minolta DiMage S414, Olympus C 750UZ, Sony DSC-P92) and am having trouble figureing out the specs. I have been comparing them at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sidebyside.asp I favor the Minolta, but am seriously looking at the Olympus as well. What camera would you recommend/not recommend and why?
TFTH
 

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Well, I think I have decided on the Olympus C-750UZ, Hopefully I have made a good choice. Do you see any problems from the specs?
Specs
Format Compact SLR-like
Max resolution 2288 x 1712
Low resolution 2048 x 1536, 1600 x 1200, 1280 x 960, 1024 x 768, 640 x 480
Image ratio w:h 4:3
Effective pixels 3.9 million
Sensor photo detectors 4.13 million
Sensor size 1/2.7 " (5.27 x 3.96 mm)
Sensor type CCD
Colour filter array RGB
ISO rating Auto, 100, 200, 400
Zoom wide (W) 38 mm
Zoom tele (T) 380 mm (10 x)
Digital zoom Yes up to 4x
Auto Focus Yes
Manual Focus Yes
Auto focus type TTL
Normal focus range 60 cm
Macro focus range 7 cm
White balance override Yes - 5 positions, plus manual
Aperture range F2.8 - F3.7 / F8.0
Min shutter 16 sec
Max shutter 1/1000 sec
Built-in Flash Yes, pop-up
External flash Yes, Olympus sync
Flash modes Auto, Red-Eye, Forced, Off, Slow 1&2, External
Focal length multiplier
Exposure compensation -2EV to +2EV in 1/3EV steps
Metering ESP digital, Spot, Multi-Spot
Aperture priority Yes
Shutter priority Yes
Continuous Drive Yes, 2.6 fps, 12 frames @ HQ
Movie Clips Yes, 15 fps @ 320 x 240
Remote control No
Tripod mount Yes
Self-timer Yes
Time-lapse recording No
Storage types xD Picture Card
Microdrive compatible No
Storage included 16 MB xD Picture Card
Uncompressed format TIFF
Compressed format JPEG (EXIF 2.2)
Quality Levels Standard, High, Super High
Viewfinder EVF
LCD 1.5 "
LCD Pixels 110,000
Playback zoom Yes
Video out Yes
USB Yes
Firewire (IEEE 1394) No
Serial No
Battery / Charger No
Battery AA (4) batteries (NiMH recommended)
Weight (inc. batteries) 340 g (12 oz)
Dimensions 108 x 66 x 69 mm (4.3 x 2.6 x 2.7 in)
 

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Ive got the C-700UZ and love it. Still havent figured out all the features, but it takes great pictures on auto LOL!
 

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I have the Olympus 3020..

doesn't have the zoom of the one you are looking at but I love mine. Still have not taken the time to learn to use all the settings though. One day... There is an adapter you can get either from Olympus and use their lenses or from Tiffen and use theirs. You can't combine them. I have the 2x zoom from tiffen and the adapter. I leave the adapter on all the time to help protect the lens. Definitely get rechargeable batteries, two sets are nice. And plenty of memory cards.
 

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Thanks for the help, I looking forward to my new camera :D
 

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Look for a Sony 717 :) Seriously, for the prosumers suitable for aqarium use, I'm pretty sure this is about as good as it gets... the price is seriously right for the features.

Jeff
 

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Well, I ordered the camera, should be here in 3-4 weeks. I wish it'd be quicker, but I can't complain considering the price of the camera. Hopefully my tanks will be feeling photogenic by them. :)
 
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