now thats a loaded question... lol I can't answer it sorry.

 

Hahaha such a goofy poll ... thanks GOD

 

Awesome poll Jimbo,

It's thanks to God for me too.

 

Thank you Primordial Ooze....

 

Thank You God for the primordial ooze

 

Thank GOD that it created such a elaborated plants with a great diversity of shapes, colours, flowers, etc.
From the biggest Echinodorus to the smallest Glosso GOD's had can bee seen in their beauty. Praised be GOD.

 

I just say, "Thank goodness!"

and don't really wonder what they came from.

 

Opinion time. Strictly for fun only.

Voice your feelings and / or opinions!

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"...Thank You God for the primordial ooze..."

I love this one.... I have never understood why Evolution *HAS* to debunk or deface creation... *shrug*

Its not my line but I'll use it: Couldnt "Let there be light" simply be a metaphor for The Big Bang?

 

Who says God didn't have a hand in evolution? Just a slight nudge or kick in the pants to get things rolling.

"...Thank You God for the primordial ooze..." is a variation of what I like to say when people ask was it God or evolution (science geek in family).

 

"...Thank You God for the primordial ooze..."

I love this one.... I have never understood why Evolution *HAS* to debunk or deface creation... *shrug*

Its not my line but I'll use it: Couldnt "Let there be light" simply be a metaphor for The Big Bang?

definitely agree, the bible is full of metaphor and can't always be taken literally. these statements are pretty much where I stand on the issue.

 

You all should check out Kenneth Miller. I saw a talk he gave at UMass and it was very good. He is extreemly intelligent and a great public speaker who does a great job blasting the fanatics yet allowing room for being both a scientist and person of faith.

I personally think the debate is stupid. The evidence is clear, its not an either or question and the ooze is what we have to study, learn from and what we should be bound to protect and fix.

 

Opinion time. Strictly for fun only.

Voice your feelings and / or opinions!

 

Me? If so I thing I had, but I guess rereading it might be confusing. Ooze all the way!

 

"The idea that that this universe in all it's million-fold order & precision is the result of blind chance is as credible as the idea that if a printshop blew up all the type would fall down again in the finished & faultless form of the dictionary" -Albert Einstein
I agree with a combination of science & spirituality. I didn't use the word religion-religion never made me feel close to God, but Nature has. Science is a wonderful thing, too, it keeps us wondering, & learning the how & the why of things. So I'll thank God for the Primordial Ooze!

 

"The idea that that this universe in all it's million-fold order & precision is the result of blind chance is as credible as the idea that if a printshop blew up all the type would fall down again in the finished & faultless form of the dictionary" -Albert Einstein

I've never heard that quote before. Thank you.
Who or what do you think Albert Einstein 'thought' or 'felt' created the primordial ooze?
Again, this is for fun only.

My friend who has a PhD from MIT gave me some very interesting insights to how people 'felt' and 'thought' in the physics dept (positive) and how people 'felt' and 'thought' in the Social Sciences dept (negative) towards the idea of G_d. I was surprised !.
At SUNY Stony Brook 20 years ago, at times it felt like the majority of the entire campus was negative.

What I love about my country is the fact that we have freedom of speech. I realize that in some countries, at some workplaces, at some schools and some other places; people are not FREE to express their thoughts, their feelings or their opinions openly. They are either oppressed by the government, academia, or their peers if they think 'differently'. The idea that people can share their thoughts, feelings or opinions is refreshing and wonderful. The idea that we can share ideas is a priceless freedom. Our thoughts, feelings and opinions are our own. They are not right nor wrong, they are 'OURS'. And we have the right to have them. The luxury to share is wonderful. It would have to be the most priceless freedom I appreciate in my country. We do not have to be 'right' or 'correct' or agree with everyone else. I appreciate differences, and I always learn from others. That is what makes the world a beautiful place.

So, if you have the right and priviledge to have the freedom to read and write here, why not exercise this right in this forum and either express anonymously (vote) or share with a post?

I encourage each to be brave, and not to think that you MUST AGREE with everyone or anyone.

I am sure Einstein must have 'felt' in the minority a lot of his life. But he was brave to share his ideas.

Again this is for fun only, feel FREE to share your thoughts, feelings and opinions.

NO ONE WILL ATTACK OR BELITTLE WHAT YOU SAY. (I hope.)

 

Who do you think created that Ooze? There are so many unexplained things in this world, how could one not to belive?

 

how could one not to belive?

That to me is one of many interesting parts. Please expand. Again, your post is yours. You own it. Exercise your freedom. Share with others. Be BRAVE. At times it takes courage when you do not know how people may react to what we say, write or post.

Exercise your freedom. Stand tall, stand proud AND SHARE. (please).

 

This is some very deep water. There was a time that I would have jumped in head long but now'a'days I tend to stand on the bank and watch.

My personal insight is slightly skewed by my upraising (christian boarding school). I have developed my own ideas since I was released from school but they don't change what I belive our origins are. I simply belive there is too much completeness in our universe for anything to have evolve. Adapt, yes, but not to the extent that evolution takes it. Life as I know it requires so many structures to exist and so many structures that requre life to exist that they had to happen simultanious.

Just my $.02
dale

 

Thank you primordial ooze.

 

Evolution is just God's tool kit.

Any rational person knows that science has nothing whatsoever to say about things beyond the physical realm, nor even if there are things beyond the physical realm.

It's also helpful to remember that the whole of science is prefaced on one grand assumption which it cannot prove: Nature is all there is.

 

"The idea that that this universe in all it's million-fold order & precision is the result of blind chance is as credible as the idea that if a printshop blew up all the type would fall down again in the finished & faultless form of the dictionary" -Albert Einstein

EDIT - References found

"I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind." - Einstein's response when asked if he believed in God.

Albert Einstein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See also Pantheism.

Pantheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Works for me.

 

Great thread. Frozen oak - deep pool? The DEEPEST pool! To me, this is the only question that really has any meaning.

Thank you God for the primeval ooze? LOL! There may be more truth in that statement than in most of the books in the world.

Why is the structure of DNA so elegant and simple? Why does 80-90% of our DNA contain no apparent useful information?

hehe, this could go on and on...........

Personally, I agree with the quote that nature makes a stronger argument for God than most of what can be found in organized religion.

Here's the question that intrigues me..... "What happens in the first five minutes after you die?"

 

Well, for me it's: Thank you, Goddess for the primordial ooze and for giving me the curiosity to want to learn all about it.

Here's the question that intrigues me..... "What happens in the first five minutes after you die?"

There is a guy, Dr. Raymond Moody, who has written extensively about "near death experiences" where people report what they experienced after several minutes of clinical death. He feels that those who have experienced this were given a glimpse into an afterlife. Other scientists think that is a bunch of hooey and feel there is a perfectly rational biochemical explanation for what goes on after clinical death.

Interesting reading to say the least.

 

Any rational person knows that science has nothing whatsoever to say about things beyond the physical realm, nor even if there are things beyond the physical realm.

From what I understand about physics, Physicists at times study things that cannot be seen or felt. At times the theories that they study would have the layman listening and trying to differentiate the line between their ideas, theories and reality. They have wonderful minds.

Why is the structure of DNA so elegant and simple? Why does 80-90% of our DNA contain no apparent useful information?

hehe, this could go on and on...........

Personally, I agree with the quote that nature makes a stronger argument for God than most of what can be found in organized religion.

Guiac_boy - please share. With your training, background and work - I would love to hear more about your thoughts, feelings and opinions along these lines. I love the fact that as adults we have the freedom to share these in a written forum. Most precious freedom I cherish. Please share more.

Here's the question that intrigues me..... "What happens in the first five minutes after you die?"

From your experience with patients and their families - what have you experienced?