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#1 · (Edited)
This is ment to be an informative yet learning thread

for those of you that dont know Utricularia Gibba is theres a link to some info:
http://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/...ral.com/forumapc/plantfinder/details.php?id=268&category=genus&spec=Utricularia

here are a few questions i would like for the general public to consider:

What (if there is ) fish out there will eat this stuff, but not the rest of my "normal" plants?

Is there another way to contol U. Gibba other than by picking it out very slowly with tweezers? (i.e. somekinda fish)

Why dont hobbyist take the time to seperate this stuff out before they sell their plants to others? (all your doing is enabling the plague)

I think ill start with this for now. Anybody feel free to chime in with any experience or suggestions.

Thanks
Elliot

How are you going to help stop the trade of this noxious weed?
 
#3 ·
I have not seen this before but it sounds like a real PITA:mad:. I am sorry to hear that you have it.:( It makes me think of the duckweed I put in one of my tanks and will never get out.:doh: Maybe some kind of pleco might like it? I agree that we all should let others know what we are selling and if there are hidden extras. Pictures are great but we all know you can't see everything and you are right all that it does is spread our own destruction. :confused:
 
#5 ·
Why dont hobbyist take the time to seperate this stuff out before they sell their plants to others? (all your doing is enabling the plague)
Don't assume hobbyists are "enabling the plague" intentionally. Even if you conscientiously remove all that you can see, it only takes a tiny fragment left behind for it to be able to grow back again.
 
#9 ·
I don't know much, but my learning period about UV leads me to suggest this line of reasoning:

1. A UV sterilizer removes usable iron from the water column.
2. It's primarily the floating plants need that iron to grow
3. Utricularia Gibba is a floating plant
4. Therefore, a UV sterilizer on full-blast may take care of it.

I know UV limits the growth of hornwort and duckweed, but would it work for this plant too? Is it possible to run the UV long enough to kill, not just slow, this plant?

(Other floating plants and mosses could be removed to a safer place in the meantime.)
 
#13 ·
I've never seen fish do much more than nip at it. You'll just have to remove it manually as far as I can tell. deep breaths, patience, persistence.. :) U.gibba's worst enemy in my tanks was the toothbrush and persistence. It took me longer to get rid of wolfia. That one's a hoot.

on the upside, if it gets so bad that you have floating masses of it - U.gibba does have attractive yellow inflorescence. When I had this one, I tried to get rid of it, but also made the most of it. Its kind of an interesting plant once you get past the annoying invasiveness of it.

here's some scans I took, looks like it caught a critter:

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#16 ·
wolfia? whats that
tiny (1mm), rapidly reproducing floater but likes to dip under the water when you try to net it out. It hides, regroups and covers the surface of a high light tank quickly. I picked some up from a collector in a batch of native plants. its like a green seed, very solid. supposed to be nutritious; high in protein and carbs. a very fine mesh fish net is needed to dip it out. shut off your filters and powerheads to keep it from moving around so much when disturbed. If you have any emergent plants or other crannies for it to hide in, its hard to eliminate.

not my pic - from www.dinosoria.com/plante-record.html

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#15 · (Edited)
Gibba is a pest for sure. As bad as algae?... I don't think so. It takes quite a while for it to get out of control. It's easily removed - though you may not get all of it, for sure. It still filters the water, it doesn't kill other plants and it doesn't shade anything.

I'd never intentionally spread any pest plant. I can't imagine anyone who would. I guess I feel about this pest like I do about snails. If you keep plants you'll see it in your lifetime, but it will be a fleeting issue, and you tank will still be great, even if you don't get every piece. :D
 
#18 ·
I've seen some descriptions that say wolfia grows slowly and isnt invasive in aquariums. Maybe its dependent on high light or nutrients. It really took off for me, but eventually I got rid of it. I had wolfia and U.gibba at around the same time actually. I think I got the U.gibba as a hitchhiker from an AZ plant supplier, and the wolfia hitchiked on some stuff from a local lake. I know I cursed several people with both during trades. Mostly the U.gibba.

the wolfia is a flowering plant also. tiny tiny flowers.
 
#20 ·
It's hard to get rid of this plant because it's a plant, not an algae, and have the same requirements of the other plants but it grow very very fast.
I successful removed the U. gibba from my tank but it was hard:
1- I had to reduce NO3 and PO4 to limit the grow of this plant (elsewhere it grow too fast to remove all of that.)
2- For about a month, daily, I had to look at the tank and manually remove all the U.gibba that I can see.
Then when there was no more U.gibba in my tank I restored the normal NO3 and PO4 dosage.

Best Regards
 
#22 ·
Sorry to revive a dead thread, but HOLY CRAP is this stuff annoying. Its in my 10 gal, and its taking over. I can't just empty the tank and clean it, I have all sorts of RCS and Celestial Pearl Danio babies in it, so I have to treat it delicately, but goodness! I am going to have to take out the DW in there and get rid of over a years worth of growth of moss on it just to get rid of the u gibba and even then I know there's still gonna be lots of little floaters of it in there. Grrrr. Sad day :/ Anyone come up with any miracle cures for this yet?? I'm all ears. :confused:
 
#23 ·
Anyone come up with any miracle cures for this yet??
Good luck with that and Sry!

I think I have it almost wipped out. I let it grow in a big ball and then carefully remove it. More than likely there will be a few floating strands left. Just stay vigilant and carefully remove any stragglers. If it doesn't break, then you're on your way.
 
#26 ·
I got some of this crap once in my 33 gallon tank.
The trick is to chop your plants back and toss the stems. Use tweezers to pull out the little pieces. Let it all sit.

Keep your tank trimmed and keep pulling out pieces one at a time. Spend maybe 5 minutes each day but don't go too crazy.

Eventually there won't be a piece left in your tank.

Flagfish and I hear platy will chow down on this. I remember I wished it was algae. I would have nuked it.